[Martenlist] Re: Updates?

[Luis]

Hiya,

I've been out of action for a little while, little problemo with  
domain migration a email shenanigans.

Well, updates are good, however small, it keeps our faith in the  
company buoyant. Considering the past with Prograph, it's  
'kinder' (heh...) if we still think things are happening at your end!.

Hey yeah, the icons, it's like asking if anyone has seen your glasses  
but then realise you've been wearing them on your head all the time.
Whoever that mysterious user is deserves a medal, now that's truly  
visual!

I suppose a month is good enough a time lag to to.... to... Appware  
reminder! Guys, if you've got a beta anywhere I'd gladly test, and  
criticise it <cough> offer a different perspective as the thing  
progresses. I can, honest, I can play the dumb user (on demand, It's  
a skill. I have to remind myself...) and see what can be done with  
it. Will you be abstracting out OS features or encapsulating  
methodologies? (Translation: Will this be a level up from the current  
marten platform or will you be creating containers for 'processes'?).  
Please say you're also thinking of web functionality, as this is very  
critical these days.

Well, if anything I don't mind being the reminder to remind you to  
keep us updated. If you want reminding that is: Just remind me and  
I'll remind you (note to self: Go to bed earlier).

Cheers,

Luis.


On 27 May 2006, at 14:36, Tech Support wrote:

> Luis:
>
> Always good to hear from you.  I apologize, the status updates have  
> been few and far between this month.
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> But, that does not mean we have been idle.  To whet your appetite  
> while waiting for Marten 1.4 (the Mac Intel) version, I have put  
> Marten_056.00g006 in the user download area for everyone to try out.
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> One user pointed out that we forgot to put icons in the menu  
> items!  It is funny how we overlooked that; we are simply too close  
> to the project sometimes.  So Jack has worked hard to create icons,  
> proxy icons, and various other improvements, and Marten_056.00g006  
> is the beta version of all this.  Please let us know if you find  
> any bugs.
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> In other news, Jack has been working very hard on a better MVPC  
> framework and we hope to move the Marten code base over to it in  
> the near future.  It will make incorporating scripting, undo, etc.  
> much easier.
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> On my end, I am still plugging away at the Mac Intel version.  It  
> has been complicated by my trip schedule but I hope to put more  
> time into it next week.  Here is the status.  The big changes  
> needed for Intel are twofold.  The first is byte swapping since we  
> store our objects directly (what is in memory is written directly  
> to the disk).  The byte swapping for objects is in and appears to  
> work correctly, so that is done for now (we'll sign off after more  
> testing).  The second big change is the platform-specific  
> assembly.  The most important aspect of that is the ability to  
> execute external procedures "natively".  The assembly for this is  
> almost done.  The only thing lacking is function calling when a  
> structure is either a parameter or a return value.  It turns out  
> that Intel switches the calling protocol depending on the size of  
> the structure so we have to put in a runtime dictionary lookup to  
> get that size before the stack can be set up.  I admit to a certain  
> fatigue in dealing with this but I hope to get it done by the end  
> of next week.
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> After that, the next most important work is getting the callbacks  
> to work.  This will take roughly two weeks, so realistically we are  
> looking now at mid-to-late June for the first Intel betas.
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> As to Appware, that is on hold until Marten 1.4 is out the door.   
> We are working on new frameworks (both MVPC and SAC) and the  
> Appware "editor" will take advantage of those; so there is a bit of  
> work to be done before something is available.  We will keep  
> everyone posted on our progress but we appreciate the occasional  
> reminder to do so.  Thanks.
>
> Scott Anderson
> Andescotia
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> On May 25, 2006, at 6:54 PM, Luis wrote:
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>> Hiya,
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>> Where's all the list activity gone? Any updates on the Appware/ 
>> Microbrew thingy?
>>
>> Hello...
>>      echo...
>>         echo...
>>            echo...
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>> Cheers,
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>> Luis.
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